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Huge Stars in the sky
Posted On 08/08/2009 07:20:39 by rapturas

I posted something similar ages ago but this is pretty cool, hopefully we shall see a super nova in our life time

BETELGEUSE (Alpha Orionis, the bright yellow/red giant in the upper left). The great star Betelgeuse is one of two that dominate mighty Orion of northern winter, the other Rigel, the pair also respectively called Alpha and Beta Orionis.

Betelgeuse is clearly a highly evolved star, one whose central hydrogen fuel supply has run out. As a result, the core has contracted into a hot dense state, and the outer portions swelled outward. We do not really know the star's condition at the moment, but the odds are that it is now in the process of fusing helium into carbon and oxygen in its core.

From theory, its initial mass should have fallen somewhere around 18 or 19 times that of the Sun. Starting life as hot, blue, class O star only around 10 million years ago, Betelgeuse will fuse elements through neon, magnesium, sodium, and silicon all the way to iron. The core will then collapse, causing the star to blow up as a supernova, most likely leaving a compact neutron star about the size of a small town behind. If it were to explode today, it would become as bright as a gibbous Moon, and would cast strong shadows on the ground, and would be seen easily in full daylight.

The star's motion shows it to be a runaway member of the Orion OB1 association, particularly the subgroup that involves the stars up and to the right of the Belt. 

Of course, being 570 or so light years away, this event might be long over, we just have to wait to see it



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08/10/2009 00:46:17
Here's something on seeing stars in other galaxies - you need a scope:
http://www.wonderquest.com/naked-eye.htm

If you think about it, not just the fact we only see neighbor stars in our galaxy, you'd need to see a star standing out from the galatic fuzz.  And I have yet to see the nearest galaxy, Andromeda, yet.  I'm not even sure my 'scope could see it (cheap $20 one with bad coma - thrilling to see the shadows in moon craters and the Jovian moons though).


08/09/2009 16:46:59

Lee_S:

Betelgeuse (α Ori, α Orionis, Alpha Orionis) is a semiregular variable star located approximately 570 light-years from Earth.[2] It is the second brightest star in the constellation Orion and the ninth brightest star in the night sky

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse

Betelgeuse the second brightest star in the constellation of Orion (the Hunter) — is a red supergiant, one of the biggest stars known, and almost 1000 times larger than our Sun [1]. It is also one of the most luminous stars known, emitting more light than 100 000 Suns.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090729074525.htm

Maybe you're right



08/09/2009 16:04:05
Im 100% sure that there is no star outside this galaxy that you can see with the naked eye. It's hard enough to resolve stars in neighbouring galaxies with a space telescope, let alone through Earth's atmosphere!


08/09/2009 04:52:17
Lunar, that's really weird if so.  Most of the stars we see are just a small sphere of our galaxy the rest is the haze of the Milky Way, which I've seen twice, twice in my life!  Wyoming and Cashel, Ireland.  My friends didn't even believe me when I told it to them.  I'll have to look into that myself.

Awesome flare video!  I tried to video my first one, but I sweat the alt. prediction was off 10 degrees.  I'll try again soon though!

And as for level 1 parallel universes - if the universe is infinite, then that means you go out far enough, you find a copy of earth again.  And keep going, and find another.  And find ones where things are just slightly different.  Maybe one where that lost love is still single.   Or maybe one where there's complete world peace.  Endless possibilities!


08/09/2009 03:33:46
Holy crap man, I just finished my AST 102 class last semester, haven't even thought about most of this stuff since the final exam.... If I ever get some free time again to kill, will really have to vreak out the old books and definately start playing with that starry night prog the course came with. Then again, my poor laptop can't quite handle trying to load, plot, render, and everything else that prog wants to do. Although I swore there were some stars you could see with the naked eye that weren't in our galaxy....... Hafta look that up I guess, could be dead wrong though heh. Very cool illustration either way, gives ya a bit of hope maybe one day we can get off this stupid rock and start exploring the really interesting things in life. Rock on


08/09/2009 03:13:56

This is truely a magnificant post! I remember reading that scientists best estimates are that it will go nova in ~ next 1000yrs, which is infact half that time considering we are viewing it as it was 500 years ago. They are pretty sure that Betelguise's spin axis is pointing away from our general direction, but if it were then the gamma ray jet from the burst, even at this distance would cause absolute havoc to the eccosystem on this planet!! Luckily though it will just look like a big pretty coloured blob in the sky :)

@CelticCurls: yes the first time you notice the satellites going over is pretty sweet, even more remarkable though is if you get to glimpse the ISS going over! It's crazy bright and the brightness rapidly changes with angle across the sky and it then suddenly disappears at about 30deg above the horizon as it goes into the Earth's shadow !



08/08/2009 08:21:00
Goldstar, I dont think we're even a pinprick to be honest, imagine what
else is out there that we havent been able to detect? and to think, god
made all this in 6 days and declared humans as its main achievement


08/08/2009 08:15:41
Wow ! aren't we just a mere pinprick in the grand scheme of things 


08/08/2009 07:55:03

ps. my first Iridium flare




08/08/2009 07:53:13

CelticCurls. I've pondered the thought of there being an infinite/finite universe based on what I know, it really hurts my head
lol We know that the "universe" is expanding, but does that mean space/time itself is expanding as well as the matter within?

I would imagine that there is a limit (finite) but to us it would be seemingly infinite. I know that there is a limit to how cold
something can get (absolute kelvin, -273.15C or - 459.67F) but at the moment there is no limit to how hot something could
get. Theoretically there is/was a limit, and that was at the time of the big bang itself when all matter was in close proximity and
exploded.

Gee's, the hours I have spent thinking about this subject



08/08/2009 07:39:38
Oh, I forgot to add, next best thing to a supernova are Iridium flares.  The solar panels on Iridium satellites are about the size of a door, and most mid latitudes have viewings of them every evening and morning ranging from -1 to -8 magnitudes.  You just need to enter you latitude, longitude, and time zone in the URL:
http://www.heavens-above.com/iridium.asp?Dur=7&lat=40.01&lng=-85.82&loc=Unspecified&alt=0&tz=est

I finally saw my first one last week, a -6 here.


08/08/2009 07:35:06

Nature is truly fascinating!

The big bang theory is awesome but what's more awesome is what came before the big bang The only thing I have come across that even begins to answer this is string theory. I just wish I had more brain power to process it all haha



08/08/2009 07:33:57
But what if the anisotropy results aren't accurate enough and the universe really is finite?  We might be looking at temporal echoes of our neighbor galaxies through time.   I hope not though, the possibility of visiting level 1 parallel universes someday sounds really fun.
I really like this chart - I'd seen the animation on Youtube, but with all the constant zooming between stars, you lose sense of how big earth is to these titans.  So neat!
I got a $15 dollar 'scope back in December and have finally started using it, even tried my first steps of taking some photos.  Moon's terminator looks good, and I saw the Jovian moons in orbit.  I can't wait to get one with better coma so I can see the great red spot, and a bigger aperture, I so want to see Andromeda.



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